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Narfolik · Sep 24, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Yesterday i was omw to do Selpuchre of Dragimmar with a friend and while w8ing in Sif i noticed a message "GLF Derv", that was the first time ever that i saw any1 asking for a derv. I asked what do u need derv for, he said to kill the boss, then i asked why derv, but didnt get an answer. Later on after we killed the boss i still didnt understand why did he want a derv.

Since in my experience all i ever see is LF OF, MM, SS, SV, SF, SH, monk, im asking u "Were are dervishes welcomed/wanted?"

thx in advance.

~ Dan ~ · Sep 24, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

O_O

*stops to catch breath*

.. say that again.

Pick Me · Sep 24, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

I've seen the following:

GLFM
GLF Nuker
GLF Tank
GLF SS
GLF MM
GLF Monk
GLF Healer
GLF Interupt Ranger
GLF Mesmer
GLF Assassin
GLF Dervish
GLF Monk or Rit
GLF SV
GLF SF

I think the only profession I have not seen is Paragon.

Some people like seeing Avatar Dervishes or Dervishes with Scythe Elite.

Abraxas Fafnir · Sep 24, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Narfolik

"Were are dervishes welcomed/wanted?"

thx in advance.

The main role of the Dervish is to fill holes in the front line. If the team is lacking a tank, the Dervish can play a tank with their brilliant enchantments. If the team is lacking spike or DPS, the Dervish can fill that role with the high damage scythe and brilliant IAS. If the team is lacking AoE damage the Dervish can fill that role too.

However, Dervishs require a lot of micro managing ie. enchantment juggling and energy management, which is why you get a lot of players who are new to the class not really using a Dervish to its full capabilities. Which is why you get teams not really looking for Dervishs because they think that another proffesion can do the job better, when IMO, I think Dervishs can beat a warrior or sin in the frontline jobs anyday, IF PLAYED CORRECTLY (O.K. a bit of an exaggeration because a Dervish can't kill a target as quickly as a sin).

I wouldn't be able to tell you why that person was looking for a Dervish specifcally for that boss but it might be because Dervishs can deal damage through AoE spells up close so being blind wouldn't have an effect on the damage dealt.

Jaide · Sep 26, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I think the only profession I have not seen is Paragon.

I think that's a real shame, because I will scarcely travel without one. Granted, my friend has one and we usually duo, so it's not really an issue, but... I guess the problem is that so few people seem to know how to play a Paragon correctly, so people assume Paragons are useless. >.< My friend plays a great one, however, and I never leave home without one. :P

/off topicness >.>;

Sir Pandra Pierva · Sep 26, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Dervish when blinded will still miss.

The reason you never see paragon is because no one can play paragons right. Except in a few extreame cases. Though mostly I don't like that class.

Abraxas Fafnir · Sep 26, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

Dervish when blinded will still miss.

Not their AoE enchantments, like dust cloak and staggering force. Maybe the guy wanted a mystic sandstorm build.

Also on Paragons, I hardly travel anywhere without my general morgahn and the shouts he produces, but whenever I try to play a Paragon it never works out.

BlackSephir · Sep 26, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I've seen the following:

GLF Mesmer
GLF Assassin

Screen or it didn't happen ;p

bungusmaximus · Sep 26, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Hmm one of the very good thing about GW:EN is that you have no trouble getting whatever kind of class through. It's no DOA where only one build works. I've played it succesfully with muh different characters.

BlackSephir · Sep 26, 2007, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Hmm one of the very good thing about GW:EN is that you have no trouble getting whatever kind of class through. It's no DOA where only one build works. I've played it succesfully with muh different characters.

I did 1 quest with PUGs and so it happens there was an E "we don't need A, take someone else"
It doesn't matter if it's DoA or not, stupidity is everywhere

bungusmaximus · Sep 26, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

I did 1 quest with PUGs and so it happens there was an E "we don't need A, take someone else"
It doesn't matter if it's DoA or not, stupidity is everywhere

True, but DOA is truly awfully rigid, and the people in the pug you were in just didn't know what they were talking about. Assassin hate in Pve is FTL anyways, it made kinda sense when factions just got released (afflicted soul explosions), but since feigned neutrality there isn't much that can go wrong anymore with sins in PvE.

Which reminds me of PUGing gates of madnesss yesterday (the one with Shiro in it), some stupid tool wanted to kick the SS necro because 'they needed a nuker' LMAO.

Pick Me · Sep 26, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Screen or it didn't happen ;p

Sadly, I never thought about getting screen shots of these 2 instances.

I was in THK mission when our group leader did an all chat "GLF Mesmer". I laughed in our team chat and said, "I've never seen GLF Mesmer before". The rest of the team laughed too. There were a few warriors and mesmers in the area (I was a monk in the group - 1 of 2 and we had enough warriors).

As for the Assassin, we were in either Abaddon's Mouth or Ring of Fire mission when the team leader asked for an assassin. Strong dp in those areas, as long as you had some good protectors/healers. I think I was a Mesmer back then.

There were two parties on Fire Island that I've been on what wanted Assassins. One time, I was the assassin, they never specifically asked for an assassin then, just, GLFM. When I joined, people were elated that I joined. I think I only died once in Hells Precipice.

So it does happen, just very rarely.

Dr Strangelove · Sep 26, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

*Shrug* My hero hench death squad almost always includes a derv, so I'm more than happy to take one in a PuG. Amazingly enough, most warriors are really bad frontliners, taking a bunch of worthless tanking crap and weak attack skills like power attack.

Dervs can almost always be counted on to at least do some damage up front. Melandru dervs are downright godly in condition spam areas or in areas with lots of burning. However, they're useless if they're one of those stupid Balthazar dervs with a bunch of earth prayers.

Raccoon · Sep 26, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

I always make sure there is a Mesmer in my team (If i'm not playing mine).

Especially when I know that we are going to kill a boss. When it comes down to it, no prof is better at 1v1 extremely tough boss monsters then a Mesmer. During the gate of pain mission, when the rest of my team was dead on the floor, I took down Shiro single handedly with my Mes (shiro been on 70% health at the time).

Retribution X · Sep 26, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40

I always have an assassin when I play mine.

I never use a dervish. More frontliners = bad IMO. full caster team FTW!

Coloneh · Sep 27, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

weak attack skills like power attack.

get with the times. Power attack kicks ass

visitor · Sep 29, 2007, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Funny thing that they asked one for that dungeon since i have tried it with a dervish(me) and a hero/hench team. Well they used corrupt enchantment. Had enough?

Chocobo1 · Sep 30, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

However, they're useless if they're one of those stupid Balthazar dervs with a bunch of earth prayers.

Balthazar form isn't that bad, why the hate?

Stormlord Alex · Sep 30, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Balthazar form isn't that bad, why the hate?

Because it's bad.
It honestly does... very little, apart from show the rest of your team you're an idiot.

Narfolik · Oct 01, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Because it's bad.
It honestly does... very little, apart from show the rest of your team you're an idiot.

maybe, but when u want to mock a wammo doing his dance....

avatar_of_grenth_just_for_the_dance_ftw!